I’ve contemplated this sort of idea before, though not as in depth as this article. I believe that there is definite truth in it, especially as I am coming to realize that, God being Person in the highest sense, did not make an impersonal creation. All that has been made has a personal dimension even if it is not a person, because all that God created is ultimately for His glory and meant to be offered up by man to God, which is man’s priestly function. We live in a reality created by I AM, so nothing that He has made is without purpose or care. So much of what we have been fed about the nature of reality from the world is wrong either by ignorance or by deception, and I suspect it is likely a bit of both.
To a certain degree, I absolutely think so. In the past year, I’ve been viewing atoms and molecules as self-regulating organisms and it suddenly miracles and magic don’t seem so crazy. If you want to look more into this, check out the Youtube channel ‘Formscapes’ and listen to his video essays on the concept of ‘morphic resonance’
Rupert Sheldrake is the one who presented the concept of Morphic Resonance. You can find many YouTube videos of him speaking about this, as well as videos of him discussing the sun being conscious.
Especially interesting are his more recent conversations with Mark Vernon.
Agreed , everything God created was with care and purpose in mind so very personal,given an opportunity to live by God s grace in their unique nich in creation that needs to be filled to complete a interworking creation totality.However since free will was also gifted so love could be won,and with it greatest purpose, rebellion could and would be chosen by some and a places of seperation was needed for the rebellers from those loyal to Gods creabtion.
The deceivers of the secret societies, elites with dark backgrounds have confused the heavens with deceptions to the extreme hiding primarily that everything is consciousness and entity based foremost and represents gradients of good or evil.
Those who have tried to force feed us a Godless version of science would offer us most anyyhing but the truth ie alens from different floating rocks in the sky with fiery cores,or future time traveler's from infinite parallel universes etc destroying personal meaning with and for God being the obvious goal ie to kill our souls by perceived displacement from meaning,care and love of God.
Don't fall for it. Book of Enoch seems to continue authors theme well: Stars are angels both good and bad as are the 7 wandering stars/ planets. How that works in all details left a mystery to most of us for cause . I'm certain God that will be revealed in good time but seems to entail much less solid material zipping around up there and way more spirits generating lights,yet some able to generate physical,not just ethereal aspects on cue as they desire , manifesting here on our surface if you will as author suggests; that's what I'm perceiving from evidences..
. Part of the reason why elites lie about this is their in cahoots with fallen angels and are traitors of the first order so they tell us we're worthless mature monkeys and there is no spiritual war,even hiding dragon bones pretending there just impersonal dinosaur lizard's and shapeshifting metaphysical creatures of lore never existed and they are just a bunch of strange people who do weird rituals yet are atheists primarily behind closed doors where children keep disappearing by coincidence forever etc
. Truth is they want to control all spiritual aspects their keenly adept in to rob you of your good bearings of who and what you are to God and the angel stars of light( and darkness...Star Trek and NASA's premise is a horrible lie. We live in a realm, be it 3 heavens or 7 etc I don't know and beyond that is the abyss or outer darkness devoid of creation areas you don't want to be cast to as Enoch references when he says some rebellion angels were once penalized 10,000 years in outer darkness,while others cast to Earth on there way to Sheol or Hell it seems.
Further evidence of this Truth is found on YouTube under Are stars angels videos or Nikon 1000 stars videos under 125 to 250 magnification proving entity non rock behavior of stars with all showing multi colors and figure movements in interiors and moving at variable side to side distances,some not round at all or yes even humanoid revealing ,but vibrating , rotating at terrific speeds shooting out energetic reverberations like that's their goal...I don't recommend looking at stars through a telescope for long periods,this is a form of energetic channeling and if you choose a demonic star well not good frequencies to amplify into yourself!
Even viewing videos of demonic stars in YouTube thru a Nikon p1000 may be foolish stuff I've recently decided.Consider the ancients used to channel star beams thru giant clocks and portal structures and pyramids (Stonehenge, Egyptians Mayans),mainly Saturn,( Rome was known was known as Saturnalia and they believed Apollo and Lucifer's energy resided there,etc).Is it coincidence that there's a rotating mass on Saturn the shape of a pentagram that frequencies 666 that Nasa admits exists,Sure! Search Saturn's pentagram rotating storm!.. Ezekiel's wheel star appears to be up there too ie videos!
Anyway when they channeled the beams ,bad things would be amplified tied to these entities.A telescope or camera is a amplifier of modern sort,enuff said,no one to tell you it's not rage cuz most of those in charge of astronomy are bad news people elite tied so I'm telling you,beware! Take a quick peak to verify truth of where your really at to get your spiritual bearings don't hang long or channel...less then moderation..just verify your bearings in this realm reality to be free of lies that weaken you and your place with God proper..
Ok great article,tried to fill in a few gaps seen with my comments, hope it helped expand what author was trying to relate: We are intimately connected to God through the star angels good,the bad ones are vibing us too and need to be kept an eye on in truth not deceptions(ain't no impersonal aliens alien rock planets,it's energetic spirits that can materialize and shapeshift that represent the virtues or the vices . Make good , careful choices,it really,really does matter I promise you!
This is a very interesting article. I have often considered the nature of the stars as living and intelligent beings. I agree with what you said, that to say they are just "balls of gas" is the same as saying humans are just "clumps of cells". Describing what they are made of doesn't mean we understand what they are or whether or not they are intelligent. Incidentally, I have recently read an interesting book that addresses some of these topics. It's about plasma physics and it's called A New Science of Heaven: https://a.co/d/6EbiYqD. I believe you are correct, that the ancients had a lot of understanding on this subject that they are not given credit for nowadays.
I loved this. What a fantastic introduction to your work, for me.
I’m just getting into this series from Bride Ministries (Part 1 of very many) and it’s clear God wants to show me something along these lines when He keeps directing me to resources as good as these.
Starts at 32 mins to skip local business and get into the teaching:
I appreciate you. Thank you for some wonderful puzzle pieces for me to work into my own life, with some fear and trembling, and unexpected joy here and there. The more I find out, the better it gets, every day.
I am (unfortunately) a Protestant scholar with a Master's in Philosophy with a particular interest and focus on a thinker named Owen Barfield.
I am unsure if you know who this man was, but, briefly, he was one of the four Inklings, which included famously both C.S. Lewis, J.R.R Tolkien, and Charles Williams.
Shortly, it is within Barfield's thought of anthroposophy that matter derives from mind. Mind, or Spirit, came first in a process he calls 'evolution of consciousness.' More or less, one of the key ideas in his books 'Saving the Appearances' and 'Poetic Diction' is the ancient and medieval idea that you so interestingly captured here in this amazing article, which is that the stars, planets, and nature itself influence, effect, and move upon individuals to influence their choices, understanding of the world, etc.
For example, Barfield writes,
"But the stars and the planets were also living bodies; they were composed of that “fifth essence”… which was likewise latent in all terrestrial things, so that the character and the fate of men were determined by the influence… which came from them. The Earth had its atmosphere (a kind of breath which it exhaled from itself); the Moon… had a special connection with lunacy, and according as the planet Jupiter, or Saturn, or Mercury was predominant or in the ascendant in the general disposition of stars at a man’s birth, he would be jovial, saturnine, or mercurial. Finally, things or persons which were susceptible to the same influences, or which influenced each other in this occult way, were said to be in sympathy or sympathetic."
Although it has taken some time to philosophically deconstruct the materialism inherent within Western academia, I think I have come to the place of your well argued essay: that the stars are not, as we falsely assume, just unconscious balls of rock and mass floating meaninglessly in space; but they are thoroughly spiritual and ethereal realities (that may have rock/mass as a part of their exterior form). Their ontology, much like humans, are both physical and spiritual, bearing a form of consciousness that is moved by a higher hierarchy than itself, or, the angelic realms move through or within the stars as the medium between different realms.
Too be honest, I am trying to learn more each day to articulate and broaden my worldview with regards to these ideas.
Any feedback would be appreciated, and any further references or books you could lead me to read would also be appreciated. Thank you!
As someone who has had a hyperfixation on stars for years this gives many things to think about. Especially when you consider what happens to stars that grow too big, and the devouring maws they leave behind.
Have you ever considered the names and orbits of the planets?
The furthest planet that a man can see with a naked eye is Chronos (a.k.a Saturn). He was the first of the Greek Gods to rebel against his father, Ouranos (a.k.a Uranus).
For sure! I mean, the planets themselves are named after the Roman/Greek pantheon. I think their names definitely represent the archetypal forces and cosmic powers their cycles signify.
Oh my,Laughed till like a giddy 4th grader with that one,couldn't resist... Apparently my concerted efforts at growth and maturity were all a waste of time!
The original name for the planet was Georgium Sidum (George (III)'s Star), but this was in 1789, so was considered controversial.
They named the planet after the father of Jupiter - whose name was originally pronounced oo-rah-nos or thereabouts.
Before Adam and Eve rebelled, was Uranus visible to the naked eye? That was the question I wanted to raise.
If you accept that the Pagan gods are simply those angels who sat on the fence during Lucifer's rebellion - thereby incurring the lesser punishment of exile to Earth as opposed to all the way to Hell - then we can expect most of the stories that surround them to point towards Christ, whether intentional or not.
I do have more esoterica with which to bombard you, if you are interested.
Hhhmmm,my original question seems somewhat missed.. Regardless of names decided on ..did you locate inference orh more that Uranus was harboring TOP CREATOR ie almighty God or close ie what position in heirarcy at best did Uranus manage ie Christ or Demigod .
I see rah in there ,close to Jah ie God ref...
Regardless of that question what's lore on father of Jupiter?
Seems Enoch suggested outer darkness or fringe as optional penalty ie 10,000 years...are they back now?
Interesting video is YouTube Are stars fallen angels trapped in darkness.Using 125-250 magnification Nikon p1000 shows potential angel in star proofs or evidences you decide that among most startling things I've ever witnessed.
So no intentional mockery with term yer anus..ha! Well that's a relief they'd go to hell as fast as lightening otherwise
I thought that Uranus was invisible to the naked eye - turns out it was so faint that they thought it was a star. Anyway, I’ll stick to the one question about Jupiter.
I don’t know your linguistic background, but no Latin speaker ever said Jupiter, they said Yupiter.
In the original Hebrew and Greek, all /j/’s on a proper noun should be pronounced /y/.
Noah had three sons - Shem, Ham and Japheth. (Their names mean Hot, Name and Make-Space respectively.)
Here we focus on the last - Yappet (or Yeppet). Among his many sons was Javan (Yavan or Yawan), who was long associated with the Greeks (esp. the Ionian).
Now, linguists have reconstructed that the names Zeus and Yupiter both come from Dyeus Pater, a god (possibly) worshipped by the Proto-Indo Europeans.
From Dyeus Pater to Yappet is a similar level of sound change as the other two journeys.
So are the Greeks the grand-sons of Noah, who turned away from the Lord?
Uranus (lit. sky/heaven) was the son of Gaia, and the together they gave birth to the Titans. Zeus was the son of two Titans.
Ham, the brother of Japheth, “uncovers his father’s nakedness” - a euphemism for cuckold. After Noah discovers this, he curses Canaan - “a servant of servant to his brothers”. It does not explicitly say who Canaan’s mother was, but it is unlikely that Noah would curse his daughter-in-law’s children.
Of course, this implies that the story became corrupted, including the order of generations.
I learnt of the possible connection between Dyeus Pater and Japheth from this article. It might help you also:
This was a fascinating read! I didn't know the full story about what happened in Las Vegas, the MS news left out the part about the family praying and the screams they heard.
Yeah, that story is NUTS. Especially the part where the witness says he experienced sleep paralysis when he looked at the alien. If you look more into sleep paralysis stories, they are heavily intertwined with demonic encounters and occultism
Oh, I believe it! It's amazing how much people will try to explain something like that away. There has definitely been an increase in such activity. Interesting days ahead.
It really makes you think. In Revelation, there are said to be seven spirits before the throne of God, and seven angels represented by seven stars in the hand of Christ over the seven lampstands, which are the seven named churches given special mention in the author's vision. Are there any reasons to suspect that the seven stars are associated with the seven classical planets? Obviously the stars are in the second heaven, not the third, which is where the throne of God would be. But if we see seven churches mirroring seven angels before God, perhaps this mirroring also occurs in the middle layer? I would say that it's not entirely out of the question, although I wouldn't say for certain because, for instance, we have new planets. Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto aren't typically visible in the night sky, but nevertheless they are actual planets who, if we follow the same logic, have intelligences as well.
But then again, are they loyal? I guess a better question might be: are the planets angels or demons? If demons necessarily have to be cast down to the earth, or at least the first layer of heaven as relatively heavier "spirits of the air," then the planets in the second heaven are likely still aligned with God, at least by the logic herein presentated. But it's hard to know, really, isn't it? Certain gnostic sects considered all of the planets to be archons, oppressive controller demons, although I wouldn't go for that necessarily either. I'm totally ignorant, here, of the alignment of the stars at large, which is frankly why I halted my study of astrology until I could with some confidence say that I wasn't messing with demons.
Anyways, my ignorance won't stop me posing more interesring questions. Here's one: Does the angel of the planet Jupiter say, "yeah, you can see several holes in the ranks below me because those guys apostacized. These are, uh, vacancies. The job board has postings for if you want to fill them, provided that you have the credentials of sainthood." Just a thought! Maybe I'm overstepping the line here between human and angel. I'm interested to hear what you think.
Great point about the seven stars in Revelation! Forgot to put that in there, that's a big one. I'll have to research more into the seven churches and see if there are any clear correspondences to the planets. Clearly, the number 7 is a huge number in Christian numerology. The new planets are an interesting addition to our cosmology, but I think that their invisibility to the naked eye is significant. The fact that God designed things in a way where only 7 are visible is no coincidence.
As far as the planets go, this is ENTIRELY speculation on my part: the planets seem to be associated with both angels and demons. If we look to the angelic order of the Second Heaven, one of the ranks of angels are the Virtues. If we look at the planetary archetypes, each planet can be considered a virtue or a vice depending on the context. For instance, the Planet Mars can be associated with the vice of wrath, but it can also be associated with righteous war against evil (i.e.) Archangel Michael. Venus can be associated with lust, but also with harmonious love. The planets seem to govern extremely broad archetypal powers, hence why Powers are also an angelic rank in the Second Heaven.
As far as the 'job vacancy' idea goes, that is a great way of thinking about it! In fact, Fr. Stephen De Young uses the same exact analogy to describe our call to sainthood. Look up on Youtube his talk entitled "That Old Black Magic" and you will find him talk all about it. I love the idea!
I would like to formally request a part 2 covering other examples of recent "alien" encounters and their astrological significance/ associations, or other examples from history about how the ancients thought about the stars. I feel like you just barely cracked open a can of worms, keep cracking.
Very interesting. I think that yes it certainly could be everything has a spiritual component. God created everything and sustains all things so it does follow that to exist in the mind of God there must be a relational possibility
Enjoyable read! I’m quite taken with your idea about stars having immaterial, intangible aspects akin to human souls. I’m exploring some similar ideas in my own writing, but from a different angle - looking at Christian ideas through a science fiction lens. You might find some of it interesting! In any case, I’ll certainly be reading more of your work!
I would absolutely love to hear it! I’m actually working on a long-term project myself: writing a Christian themed sci-fi saga. Would love to talk to you more, DM me!
I’ve contemplated this sort of idea before, though not as in depth as this article. I believe that there is definite truth in it, especially as I am coming to realize that, God being Person in the highest sense, did not make an impersonal creation. All that has been made has a personal dimension even if it is not a person, because all that God created is ultimately for His glory and meant to be offered up by man to God, which is man’s priestly function. We live in a reality created by I AM, so nothing that He has made is without purpose or care. So much of what we have been fed about the nature of reality from the world is wrong either by ignorance or by deception, and I suspect it is likely a bit of both.
Experiments in quantum physics is beginning to prove that consciousness is a fundamental quality of all matter and energy.
Would you extend your view to, for example, earthly matter? As in: atoms, particles, also having a will of their own?
To a certain degree, I absolutely think so. In the past year, I’ve been viewing atoms and molecules as self-regulating organisms and it suddenly miracles and magic don’t seem so crazy. If you want to look more into this, check out the Youtube channel ‘Formscapes’ and listen to his video essays on the concept of ‘morphic resonance’
I encountered the idea that they may have free will in Andreev's *The rose of the world*.
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Rupert Sheldrake is the one who presented the concept of Morphic Resonance. You can find many YouTube videos of him speaking about this, as well as videos of him discussing the sun being conscious.
Especially interesting are his more recent conversations with Mark Vernon.
Agreed , everything God created was with care and purpose in mind so very personal,given an opportunity to live by God s grace in their unique nich in creation that needs to be filled to complete a interworking creation totality.However since free will was also gifted so love could be won,and with it greatest purpose, rebellion could and would be chosen by some and a places of seperation was needed for the rebellers from those loyal to Gods creabtion.
The deceivers of the secret societies, elites with dark backgrounds have confused the heavens with deceptions to the extreme hiding primarily that everything is consciousness and entity based foremost and represents gradients of good or evil.
Those who have tried to force feed us a Godless version of science would offer us most anyyhing but the truth ie alens from different floating rocks in the sky with fiery cores,or future time traveler's from infinite parallel universes etc destroying personal meaning with and for God being the obvious goal ie to kill our souls by perceived displacement from meaning,care and love of God.
Don't fall for it. Book of Enoch seems to continue authors theme well: Stars are angels both good and bad as are the 7 wandering stars/ planets. How that works in all details left a mystery to most of us for cause . I'm certain God that will be revealed in good time but seems to entail much less solid material zipping around up there and way more spirits generating lights,yet some able to generate physical,not just ethereal aspects on cue as they desire , manifesting here on our surface if you will as author suggests; that's what I'm perceiving from evidences..
. Part of the reason why elites lie about this is their in cahoots with fallen angels and are traitors of the first order so they tell us we're worthless mature monkeys and there is no spiritual war,even hiding dragon bones pretending there just impersonal dinosaur lizard's and shapeshifting metaphysical creatures of lore never existed and they are just a bunch of strange people who do weird rituals yet are atheists primarily behind closed doors where children keep disappearing by coincidence forever etc
. Truth is they want to control all spiritual aspects their keenly adept in to rob you of your good bearings of who and what you are to God and the angel stars of light( and darkness...Star Trek and NASA's premise is a horrible lie. We live in a realm, be it 3 heavens or 7 etc I don't know and beyond that is the abyss or outer darkness devoid of creation areas you don't want to be cast to as Enoch references when he says some rebellion angels were once penalized 10,000 years in outer darkness,while others cast to Earth on there way to Sheol or Hell it seems.
Further evidence of this Truth is found on YouTube under Are stars angels videos or Nikon 1000 stars videos under 125 to 250 magnification proving entity non rock behavior of stars with all showing multi colors and figure movements in interiors and moving at variable side to side distances,some not round at all or yes even humanoid revealing ,but vibrating , rotating at terrific speeds shooting out energetic reverberations like that's their goal...I don't recommend looking at stars through a telescope for long periods,this is a form of energetic channeling and if you choose a demonic star well not good frequencies to amplify into yourself!
Even viewing videos of demonic stars in YouTube thru a Nikon p1000 may be foolish stuff I've recently decided.Consider the ancients used to channel star beams thru giant clocks and portal structures and pyramids (Stonehenge, Egyptians Mayans),mainly Saturn,( Rome was known was known as Saturnalia and they believed Apollo and Lucifer's energy resided there,etc).Is it coincidence that there's a rotating mass on Saturn the shape of a pentagram that frequencies 666 that Nasa admits exists,Sure! Search Saturn's pentagram rotating storm!.. Ezekiel's wheel star appears to be up there too ie videos!
Anyway when they channeled the beams ,bad things would be amplified tied to these entities.A telescope or camera is a amplifier of modern sort,enuff said,no one to tell you it's not rage cuz most of those in charge of astronomy are bad news people elite tied so I'm telling you,beware! Take a quick peak to verify truth of where your really at to get your spiritual bearings don't hang long or channel...less then moderation..just verify your bearings in this realm reality to be free of lies that weaken you and your place with God proper..
Ok great article,tried to fill in a few gaps seen with my comments, hope it helped expand what author was trying to relate: We are intimately connected to God through the star angels good,the bad ones are vibing us too and need to be kept an eye on in truth not deceptions(ain't no impersonal aliens alien rock planets,it's energetic spirits that can materialize and shapeshift that represent the virtues or the vices . Make good , careful choices,it really,really does matter I promise you!
"In our world," said Eustace, "a star is a huge ball of flaming gas."
"Even in your world, my son, that is not what a star is but only what it is made of."
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
This is a very interesting article. I have often considered the nature of the stars as living and intelligent beings. I agree with what you said, that to say they are just "balls of gas" is the same as saying humans are just "clumps of cells". Describing what they are made of doesn't mean we understand what they are or whether or not they are intelligent. Incidentally, I have recently read an interesting book that addresses some of these topics. It's about plasma physics and it's called A New Science of Heaven: https://a.co/d/6EbiYqD. I believe you are correct, that the ancients had a lot of understanding on this subject that they are not given credit for nowadays.
To physics, they are, and should be gad balls (and we, piles of cells).
Then, and beyond physics, there is methaphysics.
Wow, the description for that book alone has me interested. Thanks for the recommendation!
I loved this. What a fantastic introduction to your work, for me.
I’m just getting into this series from Bride Ministries (Part 1 of very many) and it’s clear God wants to show me something along these lines when He keeps directing me to resources as good as these.
Starts at 32 mins to skip local business and get into the teaching:
Elements, Creation, and the Sons of God
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZtCjaidGwVA?si=5UhP3zML2spq4iF6
I appreciate you. Thank you for some wonderful puzzle pieces for me to work into my own life, with some fear and trembling, and unexpected joy here and there. The more I find out, the better it gets, every day.
Thank you so much for your kind words! They are what keep me going <3 I hope you enjoy the rest of my work.
I will check out the video later, I always appreciate people introducing new material to me!
Hi Ioannis,
Thank you very much for this exciting article.
I am (unfortunately) a Protestant scholar with a Master's in Philosophy with a particular interest and focus on a thinker named Owen Barfield.
I am unsure if you know who this man was, but, briefly, he was one of the four Inklings, which included famously both C.S. Lewis, J.R.R Tolkien, and Charles Williams.
Shortly, it is within Barfield's thought of anthroposophy that matter derives from mind. Mind, or Spirit, came first in a process he calls 'evolution of consciousness.' More or less, one of the key ideas in his books 'Saving the Appearances' and 'Poetic Diction' is the ancient and medieval idea that you so interestingly captured here in this amazing article, which is that the stars, planets, and nature itself influence, effect, and move upon individuals to influence their choices, understanding of the world, etc.
For example, Barfield writes,
"But the stars and the planets were also living bodies; they were composed of that “fifth essence”… which was likewise latent in all terrestrial things, so that the character and the fate of men were determined by the influence… which came from them. The Earth had its atmosphere (a kind of breath which it exhaled from itself); the Moon… had a special connection with lunacy, and according as the planet Jupiter, or Saturn, or Mercury was predominant or in the ascendant in the general disposition of stars at a man’s birth, he would be jovial, saturnine, or mercurial. Finally, things or persons which were susceptible to the same influences, or which influenced each other in this occult way, were said to be in sympathy or sympathetic."
Although it has taken some time to philosophically deconstruct the materialism inherent within Western academia, I think I have come to the place of your well argued essay: that the stars are not, as we falsely assume, just unconscious balls of rock and mass floating meaninglessly in space; but they are thoroughly spiritual and ethereal realities (that may have rock/mass as a part of their exterior form). Their ontology, much like humans, are both physical and spiritual, bearing a form of consciousness that is moved by a higher hierarchy than itself, or, the angelic realms move through or within the stars as the medium between different realms.
Too be honest, I am trying to learn more each day to articulate and broaden my worldview with regards to these ideas.
Any feedback would be appreciated, and any further references or books you could lead me to read would also be appreciated. Thank you!
Neoplatonism, Hellenistic philosophy, aliens, esotericism AND Orthodoxy? You have my attention and my subscription.
As someone who has had a hyperfixation on stars for years this gives many things to think about. Especially when you consider what happens to stars that grow too big, and the devouring maws they leave behind.
Have you ever considered the names and orbits of the planets?
The furthest planet that a man can see with a naked eye is Chronos (a.k.a Saturn). He was the first of the Greek Gods to rebel against his father, Ouranos (a.k.a Uranus).
Uranus takes 84 years to orbit the sun.
84 = 7 x 12, both of them Holy Numbers.
What do you mean by consider them?
Thought about (in general).
Or, in my case, in the context of unsupervised numerology.
For sure! I mean, the planets themselves are named after the Roman/Greek pantheon. I think their names definitely represent the archetypal forces and cosmic powers their cycles signify.
So Uranus is Holy Creator? Is that why bad elites named it Uranus (asshole) to mock God?
Important implications please elaborate on
No, Uranus is not the creator lol
Mines not? Thats a relief! What about Uranus?
LOL ok you got me with that one
Oh my,Laughed till like a giddy 4th grader with that one,couldn't resist... Apparently my concerted efforts at growth and maturity were all a waste of time!
Thank you for your questions.
The original name for the planet was Georgium Sidum (George (III)'s Star), but this was in 1789, so was considered controversial.
They named the planet after the father of Jupiter - whose name was originally pronounced oo-rah-nos or thereabouts.
Before Adam and Eve rebelled, was Uranus visible to the naked eye? That was the question I wanted to raise.
If you accept that the Pagan gods are simply those angels who sat on the fence during Lucifer's rebellion - thereby incurring the lesser punishment of exile to Earth as opposed to all the way to Hell - then we can expect most of the stories that surround them to point towards Christ, whether intentional or not.
I do have more esoterica with which to bombard you, if you are interested.
Hhhmmm,my original question seems somewhat missed.. Regardless of names decided on ..did you locate inference orh more that Uranus was harboring TOP CREATOR ie almighty God or close ie what position in heirarcy at best did Uranus manage ie Christ or Demigod .
I see rah in there ,close to Jah ie God ref...
Regardless of that question what's lore on father of Jupiter?
Seems Enoch suggested outer darkness or fringe as optional penalty ie 10,000 years...are they back now?
Interesting video is YouTube Are stars fallen angels trapped in darkness.Using 125-250 magnification Nikon p1000 shows potential angel in star proofs or evidences you decide that among most startling things I've ever witnessed.
So no intentional mockery with term yer anus..ha! Well that's a relief they'd go to hell as fast as lightening otherwise
I thought that Uranus was invisible to the naked eye - turns out it was so faint that they thought it was a star. Anyway, I’ll stick to the one question about Jupiter.
I don’t know your linguistic background, but no Latin speaker ever said Jupiter, they said Yupiter.
In the original Hebrew and Greek, all /j/’s on a proper noun should be pronounced /y/.
Noah had three sons - Shem, Ham and Japheth. (Their names mean Hot, Name and Make-Space respectively.)
Here we focus on the last - Yappet (or Yeppet). Among his many sons was Javan (Yavan or Yawan), who was long associated with the Greeks (esp. the Ionian).
Now, linguists have reconstructed that the names Zeus and Yupiter both come from Dyeus Pater, a god (possibly) worshipped by the Proto-Indo Europeans.
From Dyeus Pater to Yappet is a similar level of sound change as the other two journeys.
So are the Greeks the grand-sons of Noah, who turned away from the Lord?
Uranus (lit. sky/heaven) was the son of Gaia, and the together they gave birth to the Titans. Zeus was the son of two Titans.
Ham, the brother of Japheth, “uncovers his father’s nakedness” - a euphemism for cuckold. After Noah discovers this, he curses Canaan - “a servant of servant to his brothers”. It does not explicitly say who Canaan’s mother was, but it is unlikely that Noah would curse his daughter-in-law’s children.
Of course, this implies that the story became corrupted, including the order of generations.
I learnt of the possible connection between Dyeus Pater and Japheth from this article. It might help you also:
https://substack.com/@aelth/p-135771403
This was a fascinating read! I didn't know the full story about what happened in Las Vegas, the MS news left out the part about the family praying and the screams they heard.
Thank you so much for reading, I appreciate it!
Yeah, that story is NUTS. Especially the part where the witness says he experienced sleep paralysis when he looked at the alien. If you look more into sleep paralysis stories, they are heavily intertwined with demonic encounters and occultism
Oh, I believe it! It's amazing how much people will try to explain something like that away. There has definitely been an increase in such activity. Interesting days ahead.
It really makes you think. In Revelation, there are said to be seven spirits before the throne of God, and seven angels represented by seven stars in the hand of Christ over the seven lampstands, which are the seven named churches given special mention in the author's vision. Are there any reasons to suspect that the seven stars are associated with the seven classical planets? Obviously the stars are in the second heaven, not the third, which is where the throne of God would be. But if we see seven churches mirroring seven angels before God, perhaps this mirroring also occurs in the middle layer? I would say that it's not entirely out of the question, although I wouldn't say for certain because, for instance, we have new planets. Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto aren't typically visible in the night sky, but nevertheless they are actual planets who, if we follow the same logic, have intelligences as well.
But then again, are they loyal? I guess a better question might be: are the planets angels or demons? If demons necessarily have to be cast down to the earth, or at least the first layer of heaven as relatively heavier "spirits of the air," then the planets in the second heaven are likely still aligned with God, at least by the logic herein presentated. But it's hard to know, really, isn't it? Certain gnostic sects considered all of the planets to be archons, oppressive controller demons, although I wouldn't go for that necessarily either. I'm totally ignorant, here, of the alignment of the stars at large, which is frankly why I halted my study of astrology until I could with some confidence say that I wasn't messing with demons.
Anyways, my ignorance won't stop me posing more interesring questions. Here's one: Does the angel of the planet Jupiter say, "yeah, you can see several holes in the ranks below me because those guys apostacized. These are, uh, vacancies. The job board has postings for if you want to fill them, provided that you have the credentials of sainthood." Just a thought! Maybe I'm overstepping the line here between human and angel. I'm interested to hear what you think.
Great point about the seven stars in Revelation! Forgot to put that in there, that's a big one. I'll have to research more into the seven churches and see if there are any clear correspondences to the planets. Clearly, the number 7 is a huge number in Christian numerology. The new planets are an interesting addition to our cosmology, but I think that their invisibility to the naked eye is significant. The fact that God designed things in a way where only 7 are visible is no coincidence.
As far as the planets go, this is ENTIRELY speculation on my part: the planets seem to be associated with both angels and demons. If we look to the angelic order of the Second Heaven, one of the ranks of angels are the Virtues. If we look at the planetary archetypes, each planet can be considered a virtue or a vice depending on the context. For instance, the Planet Mars can be associated with the vice of wrath, but it can also be associated with righteous war against evil (i.e.) Archangel Michael. Venus can be associated with lust, but also with harmonious love. The planets seem to govern extremely broad archetypal powers, hence why Powers are also an angelic rank in the Second Heaven.
As far as the 'job vacancy' idea goes, that is a great way of thinking about it! In fact, Fr. Stephen De Young uses the same exact analogy to describe our call to sainthood. Look up on Youtube his talk entitled "That Old Black Magic" and you will find him talk all about it. I love the idea!
I would like to formally request a part 2 covering other examples of recent "alien" encounters and their astrological significance/ associations, or other examples from history about how the ancients thought about the stars. I feel like you just barely cracked open a can of worms, keep cracking.
Very interesting. I think that yes it certainly could be everything has a spiritual component. God created everything and sustains all things so it does follow that to exist in the mind of God there must be a relational possibility
Enjoyable read! I’m quite taken with your idea about stars having immaterial, intangible aspects akin to human souls. I’m exploring some similar ideas in my own writing, but from a different angle - looking at Christian ideas through a science fiction lens. You might find some of it interesting! In any case, I’ll certainly be reading more of your work!
I would absolutely love to hear it! I’m actually working on a long-term project myself: writing a Christian themed sci-fi saga. Would love to talk to you more, DM me!
All energy and matter has consciousness and will. Experiments in quantum physics is starting to provide this.
really good post. Cool to see more Orthodox writing on this stuff
Really dumbstruck. This is fascinating
So happy that you found it fascinating!! Thank you for reading <3